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How long does this stimulant stay in your system for?

im currently using a pre workout that contains it and im going to be drug tested before rugby season and i need to know how long i need to be off to come up clear...

does anyone know?
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It seems to be staying for something like 80-120 hours but this was tested on 2 subjects.

If I were you, I'd stay out for 1 week to be sure

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ok cool thanks bro..
are there any decent pre's that dont have it?
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I've never taken 1-3 dim nor a pre workout but here's a list of pre-workouts:
PWO list

Here's PWO without 1-3dim:
Assault by MusclePharm (looks like a good one, I think ectomorph take it so he'll be able to help you if you have questions)

For these, I didn't find 1,3 dim in them BUT they did not state that there wasn't 1-3 dim ( Assault clearly states that there's no 1-3 dim)
N.O. Xplode

1 M.R.
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thanks so much man
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I've never taken 1-3 dim nor a pre workout but here's a list of pre-workouts:
PWO list

Here's PWO without 1-3dim:
Assault by MusclePharm (looks like a good one, I think ectomorph take it so he'll be able to help you if you have questions)

For these, I didn't find 1,3 dim in them BUT they did not state that there wasn't 1-3 dim ( Assault clearly states that there's no 1-3 dim)
N.O. Xplode

1 M.R.


Assault all the way brah. You'll train like an unchained beast without poisoning your body with 1.3 dim.
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If you need a PWO Assault is def the way to go
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whats so special about 1.3 dim and why its illegal?

do any of you guys know?
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1.M.R the old version got 1.3 new don't just the biggest ass ton of caffeine you ever seen.
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It's closely related to amphetamines. The only structural difference between it and amphetamine is that it lacks a benzene ring. It has a similar mode of action, being a stimulant and having norepinephrinergic effects. Anything that affects CNS is banned by most of the anti-doping committees. -EK
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Caffeine isn't.

And anti doping committees are grossly un consistant.
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Consistency has nothing to do with the argument presented. Caffeine actually was on the World Anti-doping list until 2004, but was removed only because it has such a wide range of metabolic absorption rate. Just about every year it ends up in discussion to be added back, but isn't because of its rate of metabolism. I'm not really following your argument either way, though, as caffeine isn't really considered a significant CNS stimulant relative to amphetamines.-EK
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Anything that affects CNS is banned by most of the anti-doping committees. -EK

Caffeine does and isn't on the list.

That was the point not to the same degrees aye but it still effects it.

And my point was in relation to anti-doping it's terrible, inconsistant and worst of all biased.

I was bringing up a seperate point generally that's how conversations go someone says X someone responds with Y then conversation evolves as someone says something related to X or Y or the product of both.
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what i meant is....

What the phuck does it do??
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what i meant is....

What the phuck does it do??
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Anything that affects CNS is banned by most of the anti-doping committees. -EK

Caffeine does and isn't on the list.

That was the point not to the same degrees aye but it still effects it.

And my point was in relation to anti-doping it's terrible, inconsistant and worst of all biased.

I was bringing up a seperate point generally that's how conversations go someone says X someone responds with Y then conversation evolves as someone says something related to X or Y or the product of both.

I understand what you're saying, I just disagree on both points. Caffeine to an amphetamine is not a great comparison, and in my experience, the drug tested meets I've done have been consistent. -EK
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its hopeless asking a serious question on this forum...
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Given its half-life (6-7 hours) it should be out of your system for urine testing in 2-3 days. -EK
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Given its half-life (6-7 hours) it should be out of your system for urine testing in 2-3 days. -EK


thanks man
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